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  • HeliosH Helios

    <p>Hi my friends</p>
    <p></p>
    <p>I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.</p>
    <p></p>
    <p>It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?</p>
    <p></p>
    <p>"<em>Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."</em></p>
    <p><em></em></p>
    <p>Here is the whole article:<em></em></p>
    <p><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/22/report-adobe-reader-is-blocking-antivirus-tools-from-scanning-loaded-pdf-documents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents</a></p>
    <p></p>

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    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17182" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
    <blockquote>
    <p>Hi my friends</p>
    <p></p>
    <p>I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.</p>
    <p></p>
    <p>It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?</p>
    <p></p>
    <p>"<em>Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."</em></p>
    <p><em></em></p>
    <p>Here is the whole article:<em></em></p>
    <p><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/22/report-adobe-reader-is-blocking-antivirus-tools-from-scanning-loaded-pdf-documents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents</a></p>
    <p></p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Uninstall Adobe Acrobat Reader. Install the STDU Viewer. First of all, STDU Viewer is, of course, PDF and multi-page TIFF. As well as DjVu, JBIG2, WWF and XPS. You can also use the program to view BMP, PCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, DCX, WMF, EMF, PSD graphic files.The program will help e-book lovers to read books in FB2 (including FB2.ZIP), TXT, TCR, PalmDoc(PDB), MOBI, AZW, EPub formats. For fans of comics, support for CBR and CBZ formats has been added.The program is lightweight, not demanding on computer resources.</p>

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    Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
    ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
    Тестирование: реальная машина

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    • HeliosH Offline
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      Helios
      wrote on last edited by Helios
      #22

      <p>@dimakor83</p>
      <p></p>
      <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
      <p></p>
      <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
      <p></p>
      <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
      <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>

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      • HeliosH Helios

        <p>@dimakor83</p>
        <p></p>
        <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
        <p></p>
        <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
        <p></p>
        <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
        <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>

        dimakor83D Offline
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        dimakor83
        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17186" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
        <blockquote>
        <p>@dimakor83</p>
        <p></p>
        <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
        <p></p>
        <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
        <p></p>
        <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
        <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>

        Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
        ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
        ОЗУ: 16 Гб
        Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
        Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
        ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
        Тестирование: реальная машина

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        • dimakor83D dimakor83

          <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17186" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
          <blockquote>
          <p>@dimakor83</p>
          <p></p>
          <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
          <p></p>
          <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
          <p></p>
          <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
          <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>
          </blockquote>
          <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>

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          Helios
          wrote on last edited by Helios
          #24

          <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17187" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
          <blockquote>
          <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>
          </blockquote>
          <p>On my private machines, I always keep all the programs, drivers, firmware etcetera up-to-date.</p>
          <p>In our company, the IT administration/support is a total fail. I have talked to them so many times that they should do much more for the security, but they completely refuse and ignore it. It's just enervating...</p>

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          • HeliosH Helios

            <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17187" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
            <blockquote>
            <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>
            </blockquote>
            <p>On my private machines, I always keep all the programs, drivers, firmware etcetera up-to-date.</p>
            <p>In our company, the IT administration/support is a total fail. I have talked to them so many times that they should do much more for the security, but they completely refuse and ignore it. It's just enervating...</p>

            dimakor83D Offline
            dimakor83D Offline
            dimakor83
            wrote on last edited by dimakor83
            #25

            <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17188" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
            <blockquote>
            <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17187" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
            <blockquote>
            <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>
            </blockquote>
            <p>On my private machines, I always keep all the programs, drivers, firmware etcetera up-to-date.</p>
            <p>In our company, the IT administration/support is a total fail. I have talked to them so many times that they should do much more for the security, but they completely refuse and ignore it. It's just enervating...</p>
            </blockquote>
            <p>Don't even worry about the computers that are used in your company. Better take care of your personal computer. I recommended you the STDU Viewer program, which supports many more formats besides PDF. Believe me, STDU Viewer is very light, not demanding on computer resources, very easy to use program. Install it on your personal device instead of Adobe Reader and your computer will be less vulnerable in terms of information security.</p>
            <p>In general, I can give advice. Before opening PDF files, check the file for viruses using the context menu with the latest version of anti-virus databases.</p>

            Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
            ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
            ОЗУ: 16 Гб
            Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
            Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
            ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
            Тестирование: реальная машина

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              Helios
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              <p>@dimakor83</p>
              <p></p>
              <p>Thank you for you advice. I will try out STDU Viewer later this day. I hadn't heard of it before until you mentioned it. 😊</p>
              <p></p>
              <p>Thanks again 👍</p>

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                harlan4096
                βTester
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                <p>I use SumatraPDF (Free), very fast and clean GUI!</p>

                S1 (Desktop MELPOMENIA): KES 12.11 + Windows 11 Pro 25H2 * S2 (Desktop TERMINUS): Kaspersky Premium 21.24 beta + Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC Pro 21H2

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                  Helios
                  wrote on last edited by Helios
                  #28

                  <p>Ya, I do know SumatraPDF. It's indeed a lightweight viewer.</p>
                  <p></p>
                  <p>@all</p>
                  <p>What I don't understand. Is it really necessary for Kaspersky to install/inject the mentioned DLL into the Adobe Reader regarding security reasons to intercept malicious PDFs? I mean, Kaspersky runs at a lower system level than the Adobe Reader and should therefore scan any activities the Adobe Reader performs. At least, it's the normal behavior with all other programs (and system operations) which are installed on the system. Or am I wrong? Do I overlook something?</p>
                  <p></p>
                  <p>Unfortunately, I cannot try it out if this is really the case 'cause I don't own any malicous PDF.</p>

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