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  • HeliosH Offline
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    Helios
    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    <p>Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.</p>

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    • HeliosH Helios

      <p>Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.</p>

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      #10

      <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17142" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
      <blockquote>
      <p>Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.</p>
      </blockquote>
      <p>But that will be in the next version (22.x), not before. I don't think developers will rewrite (edit) the application's GUI code.</p>

      Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
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      ОЗУ: 16 Гб
      Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
      Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
      ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
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      • dimakor83D dimakor83

        <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17142" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
        <blockquote>
        <p>Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>But that will be in the next version (22.x), not before. I don't think developers will rewrite (edit) the application's GUI code.</p>

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        Helios
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17143" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
        <blockquote>
        <p>But that will be in the next version (22.x), not before. I don't think developers will rewrite (edit) the application's GUI code.</p>
        </blockquote>
        <p>Well, then let's hope that will happen soon. For the time being, I'm using KL 21.3 'cause there is no other adequate option available.</p>

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          cortoye
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          #12

          <p>hi</p>
          <p>windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!</p>

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          • C cortoye

            <p>hi</p>
            <p>windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!</p>

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            Helios
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            <p>@cortoye said in <a href="/post/17145" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
            <blockquote>
            <p>hi</p>
            <p>windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!</p>
            </blockquote>
            <p>Well, not only 21.6, but also 21.5 and 21.7 (see posts above). .NET 5.0.17 was the last supported version by Microsoft and got ceased last month. From now on, only .NET 6, which is a LTS version, is supported (and .NET 7 preview of course) by Microsoft. You can use 21.3 which is based on .NET 4.8 that is also a LTS version... as I do. There are no other options right now.</p>

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            • C cortoye

              <p>hi</p>
              <p>windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!</p>

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              dimakor83
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              <p>@cortoye said in <a href="/post/17145" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
              <blockquote>
              <p>hi</p>
              <p>windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!</p>
              </blockquote>
              <p>Install Windows desktop-runtime-5.0.17-win-x86. This version is the latest version of .NET Desktop Runtime 5.0 which contains security fixes.</p>

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              ОЗУ: 16 Гб
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              Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
              ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
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              • HeliosH Helios

                <p>@cortoye said in <a href="/post/17145" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                <blockquote>
                <p>hi</p>
                <p>windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!</p>
                </blockquote>
                <p>Well, not only 21.6, but also 21.5 and 21.7 (see posts above). .NET 5.0.17 was the last supported version by Microsoft and got ceased last month. From now on, only .NET 6, which is a LTS version, is supported (and .NET 7 preview of course) by Microsoft. You can use 21.3 which is based on .NET 4.8 that is also a LTS version... as I do. There are no other options right now.</p>

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                dimakor83
                wrote on last edited by dimakor83
                #15

                <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17146" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                <blockquote>Well, not only 21.6, but also 21.5 and 21.7 (see posts above). .NET 5.0.17 was the last supported version by Microsoft and got ceased last month. From now on, only .NET 6, which is a LTS version, is supported (and .NET 7 preview of course) by Microsoft. You can use 21.3 which is based on .NET 4.8 that is also a LTS version... as I do. There are no other options right now.</blockquote>
                <p>Do not mislead users.</p>
                <p>The <strong>.NET Desktop Runtime</strong> is a runtime that allows you to create a Metro-style user interface. .NET Desktop Runtime 5.0.10 or later (latest NET Desktop Runtime 5.0, version 5.0.17) is required to run and use the Kaspersky 21.4–21.7 GUI.</p>
                <p>The<strong> Microsoft .NET Framework</strong> is a runtime that allows you to create applications whose modules are written in different programming languages. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 or higher is required to run and use Kaspersky Lab products.</p>
                <p>Kaspersky Lab applications 21.3 and earlier use only the Microsoft .NET Framework to launch and operate. Kaspersky Lab applications 21.4-21.7 use the Microsoft .NET Framework and .NET Desktop Runtime to launch and operate.</p>

                Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
                ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                Тестирование: реальная машина

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                • HeliosH Offline
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                  Helios
                  wrote on last edited by Helios
                  #16

                  <p>@dimakor83</p>
                  <p></p>
                  <p>I do know that. For the sake of simplicity, I always call all of them .NET and it has absolutely nothing to do regarding the security of Kaspersky 21.4 and higher. .NET 5 is a core component for Kaspersky and mustn't be based on an outdated software package. It's a waste of time and resources and it makes absolutely no sense to me doing that. Kaspersky is a globally well-known and prestigious security solution and in my opinion it's anyway a must developing security software based on supported software components.</p>

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                  • HeliosH Offline
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                    Helios
                    wrote on last edited by Helios
                    #17

                    <p>Hi folks</p>
                    <p></p>
                    <p>As you probably know Microsoft has banned downloading certain contents from their websites from Russia.</p>
                    <p></p>
                    <p><a href="https://www.twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1538570733672189955" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1538570733672189955</a></p>
                    <p></p>
                    <p>How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?</p>
                    <p></p>
                    <p>Thx</p>

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                    • HeliosH Helios

                      <p>Hi folks</p>
                      <p></p>
                      <p>As you probably know Microsoft has banned downloading certain contents from their websites from Russia.</p>
                      <p></p>
                      <p><a href="https://www.twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1538570733672189955" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1538570733672189955</a></p>
                      <p></p>
                      <p>How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?</p>
                      <p></p>
                      <p>Thx</p>

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                      Dmitriy.Pisarets
                      Kaspersky Lab
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17172" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                      <blockquote>How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?</blockquote>
                      <p>Hello! we know about it, but beta forum is not place to discuss such questions. May be in press releases such info can be found, </p>

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                      • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

                        <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17172" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                        <blockquote>How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?</blockquote>
                        <p>Hello! we know about it, but beta forum is not place to discuss such questions. May be in press releases such info can be found, </p>

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                        Helios
                        wrote on last edited by Helios
                        #19

                        <p>@dmitriy-pisarets said in <a href="/post/17180" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                        <blockquote>
                        <p></p>
                        <p>Hello! we know about it, but beta forum is not place to discuss such questions. May be in press releases such info can be found, </p>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p>Ya, I do know. Anyway, thanks for the reply.</p>
                        <p></p>
                        <p>PS: Didn't know where to place it otherwise.</p>

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                          Helios
                          wrote on last edited by Helios
                          #20

                          <p>Hi my friends</p>
                          <p></p>
                          <p>I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.</p>
                          <p></p>
                          <p>It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?</p>
                          <p></p>
                          <p>"<em>Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."</em></p>
                          <p><em></em></p>
                          <p>Here is the whole article:<em></em></p>
                          <p><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/22/report-adobe-reader-is-blocking-antivirus-tools-from-scanning-loaded-pdf-documents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents</a></p>
                          <p></p>

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                          • HeliosH Helios

                            <p>Hi my friends</p>
                            <p></p>
                            <p>I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.</p>
                            <p></p>
                            <p>It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?</p>
                            <p></p>
                            <p>"<em>Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."</em></p>
                            <p><em></em></p>
                            <p>Here is the whole article:<em></em></p>
                            <p><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/22/report-adobe-reader-is-blocking-antivirus-tools-from-scanning-loaded-pdf-documents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents</a></p>
                            <p></p>

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                            dimakor83
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17182" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                            <blockquote>
                            <p>Hi my friends</p>
                            <p></p>
                            <p>I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.</p>
                            <p></p>
                            <p>It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?</p>
                            <p></p>
                            <p>"<em>Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."</em></p>
                            <p><em></em></p>
                            <p>Here is the whole article:<em></em></p>
                            <p><a href="https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/22/report-adobe-reader-is-blocking-antivirus-tools-from-scanning-loaded-pdf-documents/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents</a></p>
                            <p></p>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p>Uninstall Adobe Acrobat Reader. Install the STDU Viewer. First of all, STDU Viewer is, of course, PDF and multi-page TIFF. As well as DjVu, JBIG2, WWF and XPS. You can also use the program to view BMP, PCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, DCX, WMF, EMF, PSD graphic files.The program will help e-book lovers to read books in FB2 (including FB2.ZIP), TXT, TCR, PalmDoc(PDB), MOBI, AZW, EPub formats. For fans of comics, support for CBR and CBZ formats has been added.The program is lightweight, not demanding on computer resources.</p>

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                            ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                            ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                            Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                            Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                            ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                            Тестирование: реальная машина

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                            • HeliosH Offline
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                              Helios
                              wrote on last edited by Helios
                              #22

                              <p>@dimakor83</p>
                              <p></p>
                              <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
                              <p></p>
                              <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
                              <p></p>
                              <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
                              <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>

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                              • HeliosH Helios

                                <p>@dimakor83</p>
                                <p></p>
                                <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
                                <p></p>
                                <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
                                <p></p>
                                <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
                                <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>

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                                dimakor83
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #23

                                <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17186" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                                <blockquote>
                                <p>@dimakor83</p>
                                <p></p>
                                <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
                                <p></p>
                                <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
                                <p></p>
                                <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
                                <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>

                                Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
                                ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                                ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                                Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                                Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                                ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                                Тестирование: реальная машина

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                                • dimakor83D dimakor83

                                  <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17186" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                                  <blockquote>
                                  <p>@dimakor83</p>
                                  <p></p>
                                  <p>Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.</p>
                                  <p></p>
                                  <p>In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.</p>
                                  <p></p>
                                  <p>Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?</p>
                                  <p>I'm not an expert in this field.</p>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>

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                                  Helios
                                  wrote on last edited by Helios
                                  #24

                                  <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17187" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                                  <blockquote>
                                  <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p>On my private machines, I always keep all the programs, drivers, firmware etcetera up-to-date.</p>
                                  <p>In our company, the IT administration/support is a total fail. I have talked to them so many times that they should do much more for the security, but they completely refuse and ignore it. It's just enervating...</p>

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                                  • HeliosH Helios

                                    <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17187" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                                    <blockquote>
                                    <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>On my private machines, I always keep all the programs, drivers, firmware etcetera up-to-date.</p>
                                    <p>In our company, the IT administration/support is a total fail. I have talked to them so many times that they should do much more for the security, but they completely refuse and ignore it. It's just enervating...</p>

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                                    dimakor83
                                    wrote on last edited by dimakor83
                                    #25

                                    <p>@helios said in <a href="/post/17188" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                                    <blockquote>
                                    <p>@dimakor83 said in <a href="/post/17187" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198</a>:</p>
                                    <blockquote>
                                    <p>If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.</p>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>On my private machines, I always keep all the programs, drivers, firmware etcetera up-to-date.</p>
                                    <p>In our company, the IT administration/support is a total fail. I have talked to them so many times that they should do much more for the security, but they completely refuse and ignore it. It's just enervating...</p>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>Don't even worry about the computers that are used in your company. Better take care of your personal computer. I recommended you the STDU Viewer program, which supports many more formats besides PDF. Believe me, STDU Viewer is very light, not demanding on computer resources, very easy to use program. Install it on your personal device instead of Adobe Reader and your computer will be less vulnerable in terms of information security.</p>
                                    <p>In general, I can give advice. Before opening PDF files, check the file for viruses using the context menu with the latest version of anti-virus databases.</p>

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                                    ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                                    ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                                    Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                                    Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                                    ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
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                                      Helios
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      <p>@dimakor83</p>
                                      <p></p>
                                      <p>Thank you for you advice. I will try out STDU Viewer later this day. I hadn't heard of it before until you mentioned it. 😊</p>
                                      <p></p>
                                      <p>Thanks again 👍</p>

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                                        harlan4096
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        <p>I use SumatraPDF (Free), very fast and clean GUI!</p>

                                        S1 (Desktop MELPOMENIA): KES 12.9 + Windows 11 Pro 24H2 *** S2 (Desktop TERMINUS): Kaspersky Premium 21.21 beta + Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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                                          Helios
                                          wrote on last edited by Helios
                                          #28

                                          <p>Ya, I do know SumatraPDF. It's indeed a lightweight viewer.</p>
                                          <p></p>
                                          <p>@all</p>
                                          <p>What I don't understand. Is it really necessary for Kaspersky to install/inject the mentioned DLL into the Adobe Reader regarding security reasons to intercept malicious PDFs? I mean, Kaspersky runs at a lower system level than the Adobe Reader and should therefore scan any activities the Adobe Reader performs. At least, it's the normal behavior with all other programs (and system operations) which are installed on the system. Or am I wrong? Do I overlook something?</p>
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                                          <p>Unfortunately, I cannot try it out if this is really the case 'cause I don't own any malicous PDF.</p>

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