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    Helios_07
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    <p><strong>Real PC:</strong></p>
    <p><strong>Windows 10 x64 18362.449</strong></p>
    <p><strong>KIS 21.0.29.1036 app+drv ver. on</strong></p>
    <p><strong>Standard Browser: Firefox</strong></p>
    <p><strong>Reproduction steps:</strong></p>
    <ol>
    <li><span></span>I opened the KTS GUI</li>
    <li>i clicked on the safe money tab</li>
    <li>i tried to open paypal.com in the safe browser</li>
    <li>my PC turned off and rebooted</li>
    </ol>
    <p>Happens occasionally this way, meaning when i try to open the safe money browser this way.</p>
    <p>Also happened several other times where i cant/couldnt pinpoint the trigger.</p>
    <p>I only can pinpoint the cause to Kaspersky drivers but i dont know which ones.</p>
    <p>The number of unexpected reboots onces increased to every ca10 min after i manually turned on driver verifier for all the Kaspersky drivers.</p>
    <p><strong>Actual result:</strong></p>
    <p><span></span>PC/Windows 10 crashed and rebooted</p>
    <p><strong>Expected Result:</strong></p>
    <p><span></span>no PC crash</p>

    PC:
    Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
    Build 19042.985
    Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
    32,0 GB-RAM
    NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
    KIS 21.4.8.292
    KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
    Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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      <p><strong>Real PC:</strong></p>
      <p><strong>Windows 10 x64 18362.449</strong></p>
      <p><strong>KIS 21.0.29.1036 app+drv ver. on</strong></p>
      <p><strong>Standard Browser: Firefox</strong></p>
      <p><strong>Reproduction steps:</strong></p>
      <ol>
      <li><span></span>I opened the KTS GUI</li>
      <li>i clicked on the safe money tab</li>
      <li>i tried to open paypal.com in the safe browser</li>
      <li>my PC turned off and rebooted</li>
      </ol>
      <p>Happens occasionally this way, meaning when i try to open the safe money browser this way.</p>
      <p>Also happened several other times where i cant/couldnt pinpoint the trigger.</p>
      <p>I only can pinpoint the cause to Kaspersky drivers but i dont know which ones.</p>
      <p>The number of unexpected reboots onces increased to every ca10 min after i manually turned on driver verifier for all the Kaspersky drivers.</p>
      <p><strong>Actual result:</strong></p>
      <p><span></span>PC/Windows 10 crashed and rebooted</p>
      <p><strong>Expected Result:</strong></p>
      <p><span></span>no PC crash</p>

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      Egor.Pokrovsky
      Kaspersky Lab
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      <p>Hello, we need some more tests of this problem. Please turn on traces, restart KTS and try next steps, if you have possibility:</p>
      <p>1)In KTS go to Settings -> Additional -> Additional protection and management tools -> turn off "protection with virtualization"</p>
      <p>and try to repeat bug. Describe result and save traces, if bug repeated.</p>
      <p>2)Open CMD from directory of KIS and complit command: avp.com start Scan_critical_areas; check, do crash happened after it. (no need to start safe browser in this case)</p>

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        <p>Hello, we need some more tests of this problem. Please turn on traces, restart KTS and try next steps, if you have possibility:</p>
        <p>1)In KTS go to Settings -> Additional -> Additional protection and management tools -> turn off "protection with virtualization"</p>
        <p>and try to repeat bug. Describe result and save traces, if bug repeated.</p>
        <p>2)Open CMD from directory of KIS and complit command: avp.com start Scan_critical_areas; check, do crash happened after it. (no need to start safe browser in this case)</p>

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        Helios_07
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        <p>@egor-pokrovsky</p>
        <p>Hi egor,</p>
        <p>First attempts had no luck in reproducing the issue. Main problem, the stability of the Software highly increased over the last days, i have way less problems so its way harder to reproduce problems which where easy to reproduce in the beginning. But i had the unexpected reboot yesterday so i will keep trying to reproduce the issue. Until then...</p>

        PC:
        Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
        Build 19042.985
        Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
        32,0 GB-RAM
        NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
        KIS 21.4.8.292
        KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
        Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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          <p>@egor-pokrovsky</p>
          <p>Hi egor,</p>
          <p>First attempts had no luck in reproducing the issue. Main problem, the stability of the Software highly increased over the last days, i have way less problems so its way harder to reproduce problems which where easy to reproduce in the beginning. But i had the unexpected reboot yesterday so i will keep trying to reproduce the issue. Until then...</p>

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          Egor.Pokrovsky
          Kaspersky Lab
          wrote on last edited by
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          <p>@helios_07 Thanks! Tell us if problem will not repeat with turned off "<span>protection with virtualization", after some tests. It will be useful information. </span></p>

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            <p>@helios_07 Thanks! Tell us if problem will not repeat with turned off "<span>protection with virtualization", after some tests. It will be useful information. </span></p>

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            Helios_07
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            <p>@egor-pokrovsky</p>
            <p>You seem to be correct, hardware virtualization seems to be the cause.</p>
            <p>I played around for a while with it turned off and the safe browser worked fine.</p>
            <p>After i turned it back on and played with the safe browser i had a reboot within minutes.</p>
            <p></p>
            <p>Also <span>Scan_critical_areas is an unknown command as far as i can tell, does it matter which scan?</span></p>
            <p><span>And do you need more traces?</span></p>

            PC:
            Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
            Build 19042.985
            Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
            32,0 GB-RAM
            NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
            KIS 21.4.8.292
            KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
            Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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              <p>@egor-pokrovsky</p>
              <p>You seem to be correct, hardware virtualization seems to be the cause.</p>
              <p>I played around for a while with it turned off and the safe browser worked fine.</p>
              <p>After i turned it back on and played with the safe browser i had a reboot within minutes.</p>
              <p></p>
              <p>Also <span>Scan_critical_areas is an unknown command as far as i can tell, does it matter which scan?</span></p>
              <p><span>And do you need more traces?</span></p>

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              Egor.Pokrovsky
              Kaspersky Lab
              wrote on last edited by
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              <p>@helios_07 Thanks for tests! No need for traces for now, i pass this information to developers.</p>

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                <p><strong>Real PC:</strong></p>
                <p><strong>Windows 10 x64 18362.449</strong></p>
                <p><strong>KIS 21.0.29.1036 app+drv ver. on</strong></p>
                <p><strong>Standard Browser: Firefox</strong></p>
                <p><strong>Reproduction steps:</strong></p>
                <ol>
                <li><span></span>I opened the KTS GUI</li>
                <li>i clicked on the safe money tab</li>
                <li>i tried to open paypal.com in the safe browser</li>
                <li>my PC turned off and rebooted</li>
                </ol>
                <p>Happens occasionally this way, meaning when i try to open the safe money browser this way.</p>
                <p>Also happened several other times where i cant/couldnt pinpoint the trigger.</p>
                <p>I only can pinpoint the cause to Kaspersky drivers but i dont know which ones.</p>
                <p>The number of unexpected reboots onces increased to every ca10 min after i manually turned on driver verifier for all the Kaspersky drivers.</p>
                <p><strong>Actual result:</strong></p>
                <p><span></span>PC/Windows 10 crashed and rebooted</p>
                <p><strong>Expected Result:</strong></p>
                <p><span></span>no PC crash</p>

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                Dmitriy.Pisarets
                Kaspersky Lab
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                <p>@helios_07, hello! </p>
                <p>can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? </p>
                <p>1) replace your klhk.sys file with this one <a href="https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/fQNrJejoQ13ZmM0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a></p>
                <p>2) in registry in Local Machine<span>\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 </span></p>
                <p><span>problem should be solved</span></p>

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                  <p>@helios_07, hello! </p>
                  <p>can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? </p>
                  <p>1) replace your klhk.sys file with this one <a href="https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/fQNrJejoQ13ZmM0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a></p>
                  <p>2) in registry in Local Machine<span>\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 </span></p>
                  <p><span>problem should be solved</span></p>

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                  Helios_07
                  wrote on last edited by Helios_07
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                  <p>@dmitriy-pisarets</p>
                  <p><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">A quick test showed no unexpected reboot within the usual timeframe, so i think youre correct and the problem is solved.</span></p>
                  <p>But i dont have this option in registry so i used the gui.</p>
                  <p>I will continue testing.</p>
                  <p>EDIT: just had another unexptected reboot so not fixed as far as i can tell.</p>
                  <p>I will test with the new beta version see how it is going there.</p>

                  PC:
                  Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
                  Build 19042.985
                  Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
                  32,0 GB-RAM
                  NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
                  KIS 21.4.8.292
                  KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
                  Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                    <p>@helios_07, hello! </p>
                    <p>can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? </p>
                    <p>1) replace your klhk.sys file with this one <a href="https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/fQNrJejoQ13ZmM0" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Link</a></p>
                    <p>2) in registry in Local Machine<span>\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 </span></p>
                    <p><span>problem should be solved</span></p>

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                    Helios_07
                    wrote on last edited by Helios_07
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                    <p><strong>KTS 21.0.33.1168 app+drv ver. on</strong></p>
                    <p><strong>klhk.sys 20.3.52.0</strong></p>
                    <p>@dmitriy-pisarets</p>
                    <p>Turned on traces,</p>
                    <p>used the computer for about 20 min</p>
                    <p>started safe browser (Firefox)</p>
                    <p>10 sec later i had an unexpected reboot</p>
                    <p></p>
                    <p>As far as i can tell the new driver improves the stability a little but still has reproducable unexpected reboots.</p>
                    <p>Traces: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/CxbLMuWKybMeFvm&nbsp;</p>

                    PC:
                    Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
                    Build 19042.985
                    Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
                    32,0 GB-RAM
                    NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
                    KIS 21.4.8.292
                    KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
                    Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                      <p><strong>KTS 21.0.33.1168 app+drv ver. on</strong></p>
                      <p><strong>klhk.sys 20.3.52.0</strong></p>
                      <p>@dmitriy-pisarets</p>
                      <p>Turned on traces,</p>
                      <p>used the computer for about 20 min</p>
                      <p>started safe browser (Firefox)</p>
                      <p>10 sec later i had an unexpected reboot</p>
                      <p></p>
                      <p>As far as i can tell the new driver improves the stability a little but still has reproducable unexpected reboots.</p>
                      <p>Traces: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/CxbLMuWKybMeFvm&nbsp;</p>

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                      Dmitriy.Pisarets
                      Kaspersky Lab
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      <p>@helios_07 hello! can you, please retry it with new version ? (https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/xY9VEMp03MBjjSW)</p>

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                        <p>@helios_07 hello! can you, please retry it with new version ? (https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/xY9VEMp03MBjjSW)</p>

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                        Helios_07
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                        <p>@dmitriy-pisarets</p>
                        <p>Hi dmitriy,</p>
                        <p>The initial test looks very good, no unexpected reboot while using the safe browser(Firefox) for around 2h with hardware virtualisation enabled, which far exceeds the usual timeframes. </p>
                        <p>From my point you can put the bug on probably fixed, i will continue testing to be sure and report back around next week, if thats ok with you guys at Kaspersky!?</p>

                        PC:
                        Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
                        Build 19042.985
                        Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
                        32,0 GB-RAM
                        NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
                        KIS 21.4.8.292
                        KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
                        Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                          <p>@dmitriy-pisarets</p>
                          <p>Hi dmitriy,</p>
                          <p>The initial test looks very good, no unexpected reboot while using the safe browser(Firefox) for around 2h with hardware virtualisation enabled, which far exceeds the usual timeframes. </p>
                          <p>From my point you can put the bug on probably fixed, i will continue testing to be sure and report back around next week, if thats ok with you guys at Kaspersky!?</p>

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                          Dmitriy.Pisarets
                          Kaspersky Lab
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                          <p>@helios_07 thank you! i'll provide your answer to developers, they will do fix and bug will be closed</p>
                          <p></p>

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